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		<title>Comment on When Prison Break clashes with the Los Angeles DWP. by erkan öztürk</title>
		<link>http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/2008/11/06/when-prison-break-clashes-with-the-los-angeles-dwp/comment-page-1/#comment-52999</link>
		<dc:creator>erkan öztürk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benim yazd???m mesaj? hangi yav?ak sildi. o?lum siz malm?s?n?z.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benim yazd???m mesaj? hangi yav?ak sildi. o?lum siz malm?s?n?z.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mountain bikers at your picnic? You decide. by Markos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 00:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riding a mountain bike through Griffith Park is pretty much a lost cause. But pointing fingers at MTB riders for environmental degradation while horses are perceived as &quot;natural,&quot; and therefore environmentally friendly is also a fruitless argument. 

Consider the massive amount of food a horse eats. That food needs to be grown somewhere. That food takes up water, is probably grown with pesticides, and adds to the increasing amount of farmland we need. 

Horses in Griffith Park are not natural. They are a recreational activity. Without people, you won&#039;t see horses going for strolls through Griffith Park, let alone being in the Americas at all. 

With that said, you won&#039;t see mountain bikes going through Griffith Park without people either. Calling one natural and the other a nuisance denies that both are recreational activities. 

The perception of mountain bikers, as propagated by your argument as inconsiderate adrenaline junkies, only exists to keep them banned, rather than actually understand them. Having understood-rules would be effective, but it seems like you would rather not understand what mountain bikers are really like. Look at the picture you posted - is there anywhere in Griffith Park a rider can jump like that? Even if there was, the vast majority of riders are not capable whatsoever of that kind of riding. 

Consideration does not need iron-fisted laws. Yes, I am an adrenaline junkie, I&#039;ll admit that. But I am not riding for the sole purpose of hunting down Donna Barstow and making her life miserable. There are ways to work out differences rather than banning one and giving a warm hug to the other. Just like how I can drive through Griffith Park at 40, rather than 25, give road riders plenty of room, and not be a hazard to anyone. If you have to drive through Griffith Park at 25 to manage to not hit a cyclist or plow into a horse or ravine, you shouldn&#039;t be driving. But that&#039;s an argument for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riding a mountain bike through Griffith Park is pretty much a lost cause. But pointing fingers at MTB riders for environmental degradation while horses are perceived as &#8220;natural,&#8221; and therefore environmentally friendly is also a fruitless argument. </p>
<p>Consider the massive amount of food a horse eats. That food needs to be grown somewhere. That food takes up water, is probably grown with pesticides, and adds to the increasing amount of farmland we need. </p>
<p>Horses in Griffith Park are not natural. They are a recreational activity. Without people, you won&#8217;t see horses going for strolls through Griffith Park, let alone being in the Americas at all. </p>
<p>With that said, you won&#8217;t see mountain bikes going through Griffith Park without people either. Calling one natural and the other a nuisance denies that both are recreational activities. </p>
<p>The perception of mountain bikers, as propagated by your argument as inconsiderate adrenaline junkies, only exists to keep them banned, rather than actually understand them. Having understood-rules would be effective, but it seems like you would rather not understand what mountain bikers are really like. Look at the picture you posted &#8211; is there anywhere in Griffith Park a rider can jump like that? Even if there was, the vast majority of riders are not capable whatsoever of that kind of riding. </p>
<p>Consideration does not need iron-fisted laws. Yes, I am an adrenaline junkie, I&#8217;ll admit that. But I am not riding for the sole purpose of hunting down Donna Barstow and making her life miserable. There are ways to work out differences rather than banning one and giving a warm hug to the other. Just like how I can drive through Griffith Park at 40, rather than 25, give road riders plenty of room, and not be a hazard to anyone. If you have to drive through Griffith Park at 25 to manage to not hit a cyclist or plow into a horse or ravine, you shouldn&#8217;t be driving. But that&#8217;s an argument for another day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do they kill horses with a broken leg? by Bill Frich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Frich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Raptor

Since people can survive with no legs, why not horses?</description>
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<p>Since people can survive with no legs, why not horses?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Halloween fun in Griffith Park. by Falken ZIEX912</title>
		<link>http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/2008/10/31/halloween-fun-in-griffith-park/comment-page-1/#comment-52049</link>
		<dc:creator>Falken ZIEX912</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! Thanks for posting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! Thanks for posting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do they kill horses with a broken leg? by Donna Barstow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jabert, what does cute have to do with it? You adopt an animal, you better as hell be responsible for its health, and LIFE. 

Also, if you had a broken leg, would you be in pain for the rest of your life? Or should we just execute you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jabert, what does cute have to do with it? You adopt an animal, you better as hell be responsible for its health, and LIFE. </p>
<p>Also, if you had a broken leg, would you be in pain for the rest of your life? Or should we just execute you?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do they kill horses with a broken leg? by Donna Barstow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will always be people like Micah, who say it&#039;s too expensive. What is the cutoff amount, Micah? Do you pay anything to buy your horse, or do you steal it? Do you only give him a little bit to eat, because it costs too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will always be people like Micah, who say it&#8217;s too expensive. What is the cutoff amount, Micah? Do you pay anything to buy your horse, or do you steal it? Do you only give him a little bit to eat, because it costs too much?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do they kill horses with a broken leg? by Emma C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of the information is totally helpful. I new that horses needed to stand but what I didn&#039;t know was the certain reason and you just told me right here. About the fluid build up in the lungs and the kidney failure too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the information is totally helpful. I new that horses needed to stand but what I didn&#8217;t know was the certain reason and you just told me right here. About the fluid build up in the lungs and the kidney failure too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do they kill horses with a broken leg? by Jabert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jabert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree with Micah there. Seriously I thought I was reading a 12-year horse lover kid whining who would sacrifice half the world&#039;s starving human population to save any cute animal from dying and would believe it&#039;s the right thing to do to torture an animal for years by making it hobble around injured in pain because someone think it&#039;s too cute to be put out of its misery after a serious injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree with Micah there. Seriously I thought I was reading a 12-year horse lover kid whining who would sacrifice half the world&#8217;s starving human population to save any cute animal from dying and would believe it&#8217;s the right thing to do to torture an animal for years by making it hobble around injured in pain because someone think it&#8217;s too cute to be put out of its misery after a serious injury.</p>
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