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		<title>Bad restaurants and bad foodies.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Zocalo recently posted a chat in the weekly updates and announcements they send out, called What is the Cruelest Food You&#8217;ve Ever Eaten?
I haven&#8217;t been to Zocalo in a couple of years, but they do have some good events and free food, (which isn&#8217;t cruel at all). Their lectures are free, and they tackle a [...]


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<p><a href="http://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/">Zocalo</a> recently posted a chat in the weekly updates and announcements they send out, called <em>What is the Cruelest Food You&#8217;ve Ever Eaten?</em></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been to Zocalo in a couple of years, but they do have some good events and free food, (which isn&#8217;t cruel at all). Their lectures are free, and they tackle a lot of serious and interesting topics.</p>
<p>But WTF? Is cruelty a viable subject for humor now? &#8211; desperate and fame-whorish, Zocalo.  You had an opportunity to explore this disgusting practice, or at least look at both sides, but instead you treat cruelty to animals as a game, or entertainment. Why not ask who eats dogs? Or hobbles horses?  Shame on you, Zocalo.</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s always cruelty when you eat animals alive,  which seems to be a big part of sushi now. Raw is unhealthy, and alive is repulsive to civilized people. But read the quotes below and decide for yourself .</p>
<p>From Roy Choi at <a href="http://kogibbq.com/">Kogi</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve killed a goat with my own two hands. I chased him around a dirt field in  the desert, wrestled him to the ground, got him in a head lock, looked him in  the eye, and slit his throat. We hung him, skinned him, drained his blood,  gutted him, butchered him into primals, then sub-primals. We packed him up and  took him across the border to Mexicali where we made birria, the most delicious  birria.</p>
<p>This was not a cruel moment for me. It was seven in the morning and I learned  about the spirituality of cooking and what my responsibility is as a chef. I did  not kill this goat out of haste or carelessness. This was a tradition that my  dishwasher Salvador’s family has been doing for many generations and he trusted  me enough to show me.</p></blockquote>
<p>First of all, he&#8217;s lying. No one could capture a terrified goat without help. He&#8217;s pretending it&#8217;s some sort of macho thing, but notice the &#8220;we&#8221;.  And a dishwasher thinks that how to knife a creature is a &#8220;tradition&#8221;? I hope I never meet him in a dark alley. Barbaric.</p>
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<p>From <a href="http://www.charliestudio.com/charliegrosso/CGPFA_index.html">Charlie Grosso</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It was not until I was much older that I realized that Shark Fin is not a  euphemism for anything. Shark fin actually is the fin of a shark. Then at some  cousin’s wedding banquet one day, I discovered that the sharks are often caught,  their fins cut off, and then released back into the water to meet their untimely  ends.</p>
<p>Would I eat it again? I think I would. Not because I have no compassion for the  shark but because not consuming my bowl of soup in a banquette of a hundred  would not have stirred the consciences of the restaurant or the other guests.  The only conscience that would be disturbed by my meager objection would be my  own — at the fact that I wasted good, clean, edible food.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s how I make my moral decisions: How many other people around me agree with me? What a jackass.</p>
<p>Javier Cabrol is the<a href="http://teenageglutster.blogspot.com/" target="_blank"> Teenage Glutster.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Which brings me to what I think is the most inhumane thing I’ve ever eaten in  my entire eating career: live lobster sashimi. This dish made full use of those  murky lobster tanks that are synonymous with seafood Chinese restaurants. The  chosen lobsters were brought to our table for our approval, taken to the back of  the house for five minutes at most, then brought back to the table, severed in  half and facing each other. Not to mention still pinching with all their  translucent flesh scooped out and served on their dislocated tails, all ready  for our top-of-the-food-chain chow down. Their beady eyes followed our chopstick  ends and they attempted to defend themselves one last time as we nonchalantly  reached over for their ultra-fresh sinewy flesh.</p></blockquote>
<p>My heart pounded and I got tears in my eyes when I read this.  This is almost exactly how <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385339488?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=donnabarstowc-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0385339488">Hannibal</a> ends. I see no difference between torturing cats, burning insects, killing people, and eating animals while they are still alive.</p>
<p>From Kat Odell at <a href="http://la.eater.com/">Eater LA</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Since I eat out so frequently for work, I eat a lot of foie gras and I do have  to say I love it. There are more humane ways to produce foie that have been  mostly explored in France, and it’s a shame that people in the U.S. don’t  consider this alternative method (save for Dan Barber at Blue Hill).</p></blockquote>
<p>Most people know that foie gras comes from geese that have force-fed. You know that pain when you eat too much? Think of your whole life in pain, with food clogging your throat all day long, not allowed to move -total torture. According to Wiki, only 5 countries left in Europe still allow this animal cruelty. Oh, and the gluttonous US, of course.</p>
<p>From Maite Gomez-Rejon at <a href="http://www.artbites.net/">ARtbites</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The cruelest food I’ve ever eaten is live lobster at Sanuki No Sato, housed in  an obscure strip mall in Gardena&#8230;.Always game for trying new foods — especially those that will give me a good  story to tell — I was anxious for our lobster’s arrival. When it came to the  table it was enormously regal, its eyes staring straight at us, antennas moving  as if pleading for help, its now useless armor cut open revealing perfectly  sliced flesh.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, Maite, that was a terrible story, so, sorry, you will continue to be a bore wherever you go.</p>
<p>See a trend here? Sushi restaurants have  been promoting this myth for years: torturing the creature makes it taste better.  FDA and USDA, why can&#8217;t you crack down on this instead of your asinine regulations on the tiny stuff?</p>
<p>And who&#8217;s behind Zocalo?</p>
<h4>Gregory Rodriguez, Founder</h4>
<h4>Thomas Tseng, President of the Board</h4>
<h4>Swati Pandey, Editor</h4>
<p>They are responsible for glorifying this reprehensible topic &#8211; and making  animal cruelty &#8211; their own word &#8211; an acceptable, even attractive trait for people who like to eat. They have a Code of Civility posted on their site:</p>
<blockquote><p>At its lecture series events (&#8221;Events&#8221;)           Zócalo seeks to create an open and civil environment of mutual  respect,           where all participants can feel welcome.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no respect towards other species, when you pick a topic targeting living creatures. I hope the agencies that fund this org will take a closer look at these practices and reconsider whether this non-profit (if it is one) meets anyone&#8217;s decency standards. Zocalo FAIL.</p>


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		<title>Mike McBride kills a pig.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Mike McBride kills a boar. Well, he didn&#8217;t do the actual knifing, or shooting, of course, but he likes to take all the credit at California Fish and Game, the biggest killing operation in California. In fact, he likes to claim all the animals Fish and Game kills each year. National Guard, take note of [...]


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<p>Mike McBride kills a boar. Well, he didn&#8217;t do the actual knifing, or shooting, of course, but he likes to take all the credit at California Fish and Game, the biggest killing operation in California. In fact, he likes to claim <a href="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/2009/09/25/coyote-killings-part-2/">all the animals Fish and Game kills each year</a>. National Guard, take note of your competition!</p>
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<p>From the <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-wild-boar17-2009dec17,0,5323329.story">LA Times</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A wild boar that reportedly chased people and smashed into a wrought-iron fence in Loma Linda on Wednesday was captured and will have to be euthanized, officials said.</p>
<p>The boar was spotted roaming a residential neighborhood about 8 a.m. and was finally corralled and sedated by animal control officers, who summoned state Department of Fish and Game officials.</p>
<p>McBride said his agency was told by local authorities that the boar had chased people. The animal, described as dark with a long snout, also charged into a wrought-iron fence and damaged it, he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s no report online that says the boar charged anyone. I&#8217;ll bet $100 he made this up. And with no other source, this &#8220;charging&#8221;, as if he was a pride of lions, is getting quoted everywhere! Plus, who cares? A dog will &#8220;charge&#8221; someone who comes too close, too. Maybe Mike should stay away from any animals&#8230;</p>
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<p>From the <a href="http://www.pe.com/localnews/publicsafety/stories/PE_News_Local_S_webboar.27d2692.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor">Press-Enterprise</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It charged a wrought-iron gate and did damage. It&#8217;s 200 pounds of muscle,&#8221; said Mike McBride, an assistant chief with Fish and Game.</p>
<p><span><span>It was the animal&#8217;s behavior, however, that sealed its fate, he said.</span></span></p>
<p>&#8220;If it wakes up, how do you control it?&#8221; McBride wondered.</p></blockquote>
<p>What the hell, animals aren&#8217;t supposed to have muscle? Apparently, McBride believes that wild animals should be weak and fat, and carry guns. I&#8217;m just not sure whether Mike is trying to terrify the public, or&#8230;.whether he feels a little deficient in the you-know-what category, and has to maximize the ferocity of the animals he kills. Since the only thing the animal did was ram a gate, WHILE TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO KILL HIM, WHICH THEY DID.</p>
<p>And Mike prefers his animals tranquilized, asleep, or preferably dead.  If you can&#8217;t control wild animals &#8211; and apparently Fish and Game can&#8217;t, only kill them &#8211; let&#8217;s give the job to someone who knows how to load the tranquilized, helpless  animal on the truck, take it to a forest, and let it walk out of the truck. It&#8217;s not rocket science. Apparently, you prefer to load corpses on the truck.</p>
<p>No matter how much McBride crows about how many animals his department has killed, it&#8217;s not actually Fish and Game that does the deed: they get permission from Mommy, the USDA, which sends hunters. Here is a <a href="http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/annual%20tables/2007%20PDRs/FY%202007%20Individual%20PDRs/PDR%20G-2/CA_PDR_G-2_FY2007.pdf">report</a> on how many animals they killed in California in 2007 alone: 64,293. Let me repeat that: the agency that claims to protect the state and our natural state and our wildlife killed 64,293 animals and birds in one year.  They call this &#8220;Wildlife Services.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, the 2008 reports are up now! Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/prog_data/2008_pdr/content/wp_c_ws_PDR_G_Piechart_08.shtml">main page</a>, where you can see how many animals they kill every year, in each state. Not for disease. Not because the animals were suffering. No, every single animal is killed because a farmer or civilian complained. Oddly, although the reports are separated by animal, no wild pigs or boars are listed killed in California. Do they have a different name, or did Mike want to start a new category for pigs?</p>
<p>In 2008 they killed&#8230;wait for it&#8230;79,751 animals in California alone. Add 291,406 animals and birds they have &#8220;dispersed&#8221; in this state, either by gun or pyrotechnics, whatever that means, some of which presumably died, due to loss of habitat, food, shock, etc.</p>
<p>The USDA killed over 15,000 more animals this year than last. Uptick in animal bad behavior, I guess. What do you think could be causing it, gangs? The USDA did free some animals (from the traps they set to kill all the others): 1,082 were let go. Less than 2%. Hallelujah.</p>
<p>Scott C&#8217;s comment on <a href="http://cbs2.com/local/wild.boar.Loma.2.1373813.html">CBS</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Firstly I&#8217;d like to know why I can&#8217;t read the other comments due to the Sempre Energy ad box and the news sidebars &#8211; why are these not shuffled out of the reader&#8217;s view? Anyways, I JUST SAW THIS STORY AND AM FURIOUS!! Why in the @!$# does Animal Control/Services, Wildlife Services and the ilk, which are all funded by our taxpayer dollars, feel the need to kill wildlife? There was NO REASON that the wild boar could not be released back into the wild, except for the ineptitude and laziness of those that feed the catch-poles to the I.E. shelters. It&#8217;s so much easier just to &#8220;put them down&#8221; (i.e. slaughter) than to drive them out to where they came from. The last bastions of nature which we call National Forests and Parks, etc. All for ramming a few pieces of outdoor patio furniture, how thoughtful. To all involved, shame on you and may your next hike be met with Mother Nature&#8217;s finest.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hivehand comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just saw this on the news and was wondering why this animal will be euthanized? Did it have rabies?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, but wouldn&#8217;t that be a great excuse for California Fish and Game, hivehand! The LA County Health Department said there hasn&#8217;t been any animal with rabies for over 10 years.</p>
<p>Oh, and the Loma Linda animal services are totally wussy.</p>
<p>Photo of dangerous boar from <a href="http://www.knx1070.com/Wild-Boar-Tranquilized--Restrained-In-Loma-Linda/5911600">KNX</a>.</p>


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		<title>Maybe the Los Angeles Times just doesn&#8217;t like Mexicans.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Who says you can&#8217;t teach an old dog grey lady new tricks? I&#8217;m talking, of course, about the LA Times (which they call the Old Grey Lady.) Liberal bastion. Friend of the homeless. Empathizer of  the poor. Yet they have changed their attitude, at least towards one poor group &#8211; our gangs. The Times has [...]


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<p>Who says you can&#8217;t teach an old <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">dog</span> grey lady new tricks? I&#8217;m talking, of course, about the LA Times (which they call the Old Grey Lady.) Liberal bastion. Friend of the homeless. Empathizer of  the poor. Yet they have changed their attitude, at least towards one poor group &#8211; our gangs. The Times has stopped giving them tongue-baths, and given them a slap on the backside! Watch.</p>
<p>You all know me as the green, mean, Park activist machine, but did you also know how fond I am of the Avenues gang? I bet not!</p>
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<p>I wrote about the Avenidas, as they say, twice last year, both times in response to the positive press the Times gave them. Apparently this gang is very popular, all over the US, not just in LA. Of course, I identify with my homeboys because they are so nearby. According to a map on the Times site, their &#8220;territory&#8221; begins at the foot of Forest Lawn in Glendale, which I can see from where I live. Also, they&#8217;re part of LA&#8217;s culture. Or something.</p>
<p>Now, you have to admit, most gangs don&#8217;t have the best education. Perhaps irony, sarcasm, or exaggeration weren&#8217;t mentioned in their English classes, but you know what? They&#8217;re busy guys. They have guns to clean and tats to sit for. So if my writing isn&#8217;t that well understood? Well, my bad. Let&#8217;s continue.</p>
<p>My first post on the attractive Avenues, or Drew Street Gang, as the hip kids call it, was in 2008:<a href="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/2008/04/14/the-la-times-has-a-secret-crush-on-the-avenues-gang/"> The LA Times has a secret crush on the Avenues Gang! </a></p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t decide if it’s the awesome tats or the baggy duds…still stylish a decade later, apparently!</p>
<p>It’s always First Class to get an article written about you on the front page of the <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues23feb23,0,1163537.story">Times</a>, and this time it’s the Avenues gang that hit the jackpot. I imagine gangs all over the city are envious, and wondering how they, too, can get such reportage and press. Don’t hesitate to read it: it’s family-ready, and really very forward-thinking!</p></blockquote>
<p>From my <a href="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/2008/06/27/the-la-times-feels-sorry-for-the-avenues-gang/">June 2008</a> post 2 months later:</p>
<blockquote><p>When you read about a neighborhood painted as loyalists with deep family ties to its members, doesn’t that sound attractive? Perhaps a suburban enclave of LA, or one of those beach towns, with all those diehard volleyball players. Good people, in other words. And so these gangs are, in their hearts.</p>
<p>Last time, the Times writers defined the gang as resilient, powerful, and defiant: survivors, with loving neighbors. They’re definitely not as positive this time; I’m afraid they’ve gotten bitter, and that’s a sad thing to see in a journalist.</p>
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<p>The new Los Angeles Times headline on September 23, 2009:</p>
<h1>Massive police raid targets brutal L.A. gang</h1>
<p>This time, the Times writers get down and dirty; they use the terms vicious, gunned down, entrenched, violent, drug-related, and more!</p>
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<p>The gang, named for the avenues that cross Figueroa Street, has a long, ugly history dating back at least to the 1950s.</p>
<p>Officer Juan Aguilar said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Some of them [gang members] he had at one time tried to help, telling them quietly that the only way to leave the gang is to leave the city. Others had long ago slipped beyond help, he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>And:</p>
<blockquote><p>The day&#8217;s only significant use of force was the shooting of two aggressive dogs by San Bernardino County Sheriff&#8217;s deputies.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right, guns don&#8217;t kill dogs, police do. (Although I hate to blame gang types for anything, really, I do wish they&#8217;d take their dogs to puppy school before their funny dog fights.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Federal immigration officials were on hand to deal with any undocumented immigrants, although a DEA spokesman said none of the people arrested were found to be in the country illegally.</p>
<p>Most of the Avenues members and associates included in the indictment are being charged under the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Statute, which allows prosecutors to pursue lengthy prison sentences.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm, how would they know about the illegal part? And why would that ever cross their minds?! <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/huge-la-police-raid-targets-notorious-avenues-gang--2.html">LA Now blog</a> called the gang people notorious, that they used extortion. BUT, then this&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Drug activity in the area has slowed considerably in recent months, the detective said, but considering the size of today’s operation, the gang clearly has maintained a <em>commanding presence</em> in the area.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oops, back to the compliments, boys! Who wouldn&#8217;t want to have a commanding presence?! Name one teen! This is one for the Avenues Gang scrapbook!</p>
<p>Just one slip-up, Times writers. So even though no one from there has given <a href="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/">Griffith Park, Interrupted</a> any pats on the back recently, or even credit, I know you read me,  LA Times! You took my essays to heart! Your liberal shades dropped from your eyes for a minute. I&#8217;m proud of you.</p>
<p>Photos by <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-avenues-gang23-2009sep23,0,2491594.story">Mark Boster, LA Times</a>.</p>


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		<title>Mountain bikers at your picnic? You decide.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Equestrian Lynn Brown has notified Griffith Park users, equestrians, and city officials that there is a Bicycle Plan afoot that would allow mountain bikes on the Park Trails! This is insane. No one wants to be pushed aside by a piece of noisy, smelly machinery. We already have cars for that. (Or, if they don&#8217;t [...]


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<p>Equestrian Lynn Brown has notified Griffith Park users, equestrians, and city officials that there is a Bicycle Plan afoot that would allow mountain bikes on the Park Trails! This is insane. No one wants to be pushed aside by a piece of noisy, smelly machinery. We already have cars for that. (Or, if they don&#8217;t have machinery, they might whoop and holler.) In any case, they squish things that should be left alive and moving.</p>
<p>There is a proposal from the city (why is it that the city listens to bad ideas?) to allow mountain bikers to use non-paved trails in Griffith Park, and all City Parks. This includes the 50 miles of equestrian trails in GP. Presently, this is against the law, but mountain bikers have lobbied pretty successfully to get the Ordinance changed to allow this travesty. Mountain bikes on unpaved trails will do irreparable damage to wildlife habitat.</p>
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<p>After years of behind the scenes manipulations, the Bicycle Plan  is  now open for public review and comment.  The mountain bike lobby is making a  push for City Park trails by overturning the current City Ordinance forbidding  bikes on trails. In this bike plan, bikers are asking for access to trails in  Griffith Park,  Elysian Park, Serrania Park, O’Melveny Park, Santa Ynez Canyon and Lime Kiln  Canyon Park, among others.   If the Ordinance is overturned, all Parks  will be opened  to mountain bikers.</p>
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<p>To view the<a href="http://www.labikeplan.org/"> Bike Plan</a>.<br />
For Mountain bike sections go <a href="http://www.labikeplan.org/bikeway_maps">here</a>. Chapter 3, and Appendix H.</p>
<p>For those who were unable to attend the meetings, you can make comments  by  sending an email to: Mr. Jordann Turner at Jordann.Turner@lacity.org.</p>
<p>Or mail a letter or postcard to:<br />
City of Los Angeles, Dept. of City  Planning,<br />
Jordann Turner, Bicycle Plan Project Manager<br />
200 N. Spring  Street, Room 721<br />
Los Angeles, CA 90012</p>
<p>Some suggested  comments:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Bicycle Master Plan is a  <strong>transportation</strong> plan.  Mountain bikes are a  <strong>recreational,</strong> extreme sport.  The mountain bike element  <strong>should be  moved to the Appendix of the Plan.</strong> It is NOT City Policy. It has no business being in a Bicycle  Master Plan.  The mountain bike recreational concerns should be relegated  to Rec. and Parks, not brought in under the guise of the Department of  Transportation (DOT). This issue (mountain biking) has diverted resources and  energies away<br />
from the primary goal to make bicycling a real transportation  option.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>Mountain biking was found  not feasible after the 1996 Bike Master Plan.<br />
This issue was already settled.  Nothing is new.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Allowing mountain biking on any trail in any location in  the City parks will require changing the City Park Ordinance. If the Ordinance  is changed, the door is then open to all trails all the time.  It is urgent to  support the continued implementation of the Park Ordinance.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>The  City already spent $5 million on a mountain bike park. Significant<br />
public  resources were spent on the strength of CORBA’s word and<br />
commitment to this  park. They quit after one try. This should be<br />
investigated.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The City  agreed to do environmental studies at this mountain bike park.<br />
It never  did.</p></blockquote>
<p>No one likes a bully, LA City Bicycle Plan. I would feel really uncomfortable colliding with one of these on a windy path, wouldn&#8217;t you? Don&#8217;t allow this.</p>
<p>Photo thanks to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianauer/">Brian Auer</a>, under Creative Commons on Flickr.</p>


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		<title>Noise pollution &#8211; who needs it?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Once again, Ivanhoe School gives the whole neighborhood the &#8220;gift&#8221; of amplified drums and &#8220;rock music&#8221; for 5 hours.[/sarcasm]

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<p>Once again, <a href="http://www.ivanhoeschool.org/">Ivanhoe School</a> gives the whole neighborhood the &#8220;gift&#8221; of amplified drums and &#8220;rock music&#8221; for 5 hours.[/sarcasm]</p>
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<p>The traffic isn&#8217;t that bad, nor the streets lined with cars &#8211; except for the time they blocked half our driveway &#8211; what a nincompoop. And the signs hung up on the fences for the 2 weeks before it are fun and festive. I appreciate anything that celebrates Halloween. But are drums the best accompaniment to their annual Halloween Party?  Sucks. Totally NOT festive, and a really swell way to ruin the Saturday afternoon of the whole community.</p>
<p>In case you are as annoyed as I am, their number is (323) 664-0051. Not that they answer it, nor is there any way to leave a message.</p>
<p>Photo thanks to cc photographer <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/greentea/">andreakw</a>.</p>


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		<title>Coyote Killings Part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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I think I have the answer. Animal Services of Los Angeles did it.
The Times says (my bolds):
&#8220;When he woke up, the coyote was sitting there,&#8221; said Capt. Wendell Bowers of the Los Angeles Department of Animal Services. &#8220;Coyotes nip at each other when they want to be fed. This one was waiting for something to [...]


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<p>I think I have the answer. Animal Services of Los Angeles did it.</p>
<div id="attachment_544" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-544" title="coyote cow" src="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/coyote-cow-300x199.jpg" alt="coyote cow" width="300" height="199" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Taken in Alamo CA by John-Morgan.</p></div>
<p>The <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-griffith-coyotes22-2009sep22,0,4255350.story">Times</a> says (my <strong>bolds</strong>):</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When he woke up, <strong>the coyote was sitting there</strong>,&#8221; said Capt. Wendell Bowers of the Los Angeles Department of Animal Services. &#8220;Coyotes nip at each other when they want to be fed.<strong> This one was waiting for something to eat. It wasn&#8217;t trying to eat the man&#8217;s foot.</strong> It nipped at him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bowers said there was no reliable information about a coyote attack last month that reportedly involved someone who was in the park after closing time.</p>
<p>Officer Gregory Randall, the department&#8217;s wildlife specialist, said the city&#8217;s procedure is to notify the California Department of Fish and Game after such encounters.</p>
<p>That agency, in turn, called the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which provided hunters.</p></blockquote>
<p>First I called  Chief Ranger Albert Torres, who I know fairly well, but he said he was &#8220;not allowed&#8221; to talk with anyone about the coyotes, and that Fish &amp; Game were the &#8220;lead people.&#8221;  He also said I might want to call Animal Services. Officer Randall never called me back, but I did get to talk with Captain Bowers, before I saw this article. He basically said the same things that are in the article &#8211; that both incidents were very minor.</p>
<p>I also called Senior Officer Mike McBride of  Fish &amp; Game. I&#8217;ve never been interrupted so often, shouted down, threatened (to hang up), and refused any information about a PR person before. F&amp;G, someone there needs some sensitivity training! He said he had the medical reports, but &#8220;not at his desk.&#8221; He said the 2nd bite was so minor it was only a scratch and a small bruise &#8211; a bite wasn&#8217;t mentioned. He said the other report was also a nibble at a foot, at 5 pm a couple weeks before. (Someone from the city who wished to remain nameless said that the reason the first man didn&#8217;t report it is because&#8230;he works for the city and was goofing off, sleeping. )</p>
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<p>When I asked McBride who here in LA actually reported it, he kept saying to blame him, that he took full responsibility. He said it was a 2 night &#8220;operation&#8221;, and 9 coyotes were killed, not 7.</p>
<p>He also said &#8220;it doesn&#8217;t matter what happened, whether they were bitten or not. It&#8217;s not normal for a coyote to go nearer to any human than 30 feet away.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for that ridiculous piece of misinformation, Mr. McBride. Maybe you should come to SoCal sometime.</p>
<p>The real PR person for F&amp;G  never called back. Also spoke with Dr. Karen Ehnert, DVM, from the LA County Health Dept. who said it would be very very rare for any animal in Socal to have rabies. None for 10 years now. Just bats. :(</p>
<p>She said it certainly was not the Health Dept. who called Fish &amp; Game. &#8220;Why would we ask them to kill animals? That would be useless, since we have no idea which coyote it was. &#8220;  Indeed. She said they report any animal bite to Animal Services.</p>
<p>I also talked with Larry Hawkins, from the USDA in Sacramento. He mentioned the state laws on killing coyotes that I linked to in my last post. He said they weren&#8217;t trapped, they were shot. 6 males and one female were shot Thursday. I assume the USDA is like most of the government, and believes in getting their money&#8217;s worth. I mean, they paid for the men to come down here, for their hotel. Why not make it 2 nights of killing, instead of one? And so 2 more were shot Friday. (for good measure.) They could have been shot with spotlights or infrared, he wasn&#8217;t sure.</p>
<p>When I ran regularly in the park, I thought there was a coyote den nearby, because every evening as it got darker they would magically appear next to the trail I ran on. They were never aggressive, and hung their heads if I looked at them. They moved out of the way for me. Still, I had read that a good thing is to have a little mint box with coins to shake if they got close. I was not going to run with that jangly thing, but I shook my keys a few times. No problem.</p>
<p>After one of those torrential rainstorms one winter &#8211; remember those? -the den actually got washed away on the top, so I could see the spaces where they slept. Tiny, like big enough for a large cat, 5 little cubby holes leading out from the main tunnel. And less than a yard from the trail. I can just imagine last week, when the USDA killers shot the dogs. There were at least 2 men. Was it a game? Who could bag the most? I assume they enjoy their work. What kind of howls went up from the coyotes left in the pack when they saw their family die, and smelled them, and heard the deadly crack? What was that night like for them, the family gone?And they themselves would die the next night.</p>
<p>If there are 50 coyotes in the Park, as Mr. Hawkins guessed, that&#8217;s 20% of our population gone. He told me they eat mostly rodents, as I had read, and also fruit and roadkill. They are the only predator in Griffith Park. (Although no one was able to tell me why our deer population never grows bigger, like back east, where deer are a big problem).</p>
<p>Someone in the Griffith Park Neighborhood Council sent me an email that someone sent to the media. Don&#8217;t know who this is, but the details are all right. I bolded the parts I think are important.</p>
<blockquote><p>9 coyotes were killed by USDA officers 2 nights ago in Griffith Park because a man who was napping in an area where coyotes have been *fed by people on a regular basis ( *illegal activity as indicated by the signs in the area ) , was nipped on the foot by one.<br />
This was not an attack. This was a demand by the coyote who is used to being fed by humans,to be fed. It is a natural behaviour of coyotes used to people feeding it and is <strong>often experienced  by people who have cats.</strong></p>
<p>The same incident involving a man sleeping in Griffith Park and getting nipped by a coyote, happened 2 weeks ago. That man went to the hospital, and nothing was reported.</p>
<p>2 days ago, another man had the same occurance. Sleeping and getting nipped on the foot. <strong>The coyote, after letting him know he was hungry, sat down away from him and waited to be fed.</strong><br />
This man however contacted LAAS wildlife Officers and complained. The officer was imposed by law to contact higher authorities which in this case was the USDA.</p>
<p>USDA officers responded by going to Griffith Park in the evening, setting up bait, and killing 9 coyotes as they came to eat. So much for all the knowledge we have of coyotes and nature. <strong>A paint ball in the side would have occomplished more, and no blood would<br />
have been shed.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>What an excellent suggestion. Scare them, not KILL them.</p>
<p>For prevention, everyone said not to feed them. Obviously true. However, no one brought up, except Dr. Ehnert, what I&#8217;ve complained about for years &#8211; either cover the trash cans, like in national parks, or EMPTY them. The picnic area after every weekend is DISGUSTING. The people there must have been brought up to be pigs. Every possible bag, bone, plastic trays, all so gross.</p>
<p>Many people have asked who to complain to. This started with Animal Services. Period. Bok is gone, so Kathleen Davis is current General Manager.</p>
<p>You might also have been disturbed to read about the 64,000 animals the USDA kills EVERY year in California alone. It&#8217;s almost too much to imagine. I&#8217;ll link to them below, too.</p>
<p>Last&#8230;we have an LA Times <a href="http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2009/09/the-coyotes-of-griffith-park.html">opinion</a> which is generic and uninformed. Karin Kline&#8217;s info is copied from  other articles. Her Opinion?  Be rude to the coyotes. This nonsense is unacceptable in the most important paper on the west coast.</p>
<p>So: So, LA County Health Dept reported it to Animal Services. They made the call to ask Fish &amp; Game to kill the coyotes. F&amp;G called USDA to pay the killers, who spent 2 nights making a sport of it. Animal Services did a bad, bad thing.</p>
<p>Photo by <a href="&lt;div xmlns:cc=&quot;http://creativecommons.org/ns#&quot; about=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/aidanmorgan/2066553400/&quot;&gt;&lt;a rel=&quot;cc:attributionURL&quot; href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/aidanmorgan/&quot;&gt;http://www.flickr.com/photos/aidanmorgan/&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a rel=&quot;license&quot; href=&quot;http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/&quot;&gt;CC BY 2.0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;">John-Morgan</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.laparkrangers.com/">GP Rangers</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dfg.ca.gov/contact/">Calif Fish &amp; Game</a> and good phone: 916 654 3821</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_1OB?navtype=MA&amp;navid=CONTACT_US">USDA</a></p>
<p><a href="http://offices.sc.egov.usda.gov/locator/app?service=page/ServiceCenterSummary&amp;stateCode=06&amp;cnty=037">USDA local killers</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.laanimalservices.com/about_contactus.htm">Animal Services</a> Call 213-482-9558 to get a real answer and the email. Ask for Kathleen Davis.</p>


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		<title>Why are weather reports for Los Angeles always wrong?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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I was thinking maybe this is true everywhere. But now I don&#8217;t think so.
Back east they have to predict snow, rain, hurricanes, thunderstorms, and big extremes in temperature.  That&#8217;s a lot to know. But we could read the weather, too..like if the leaves turned inside out, big rainstorm coming. The smell of snow. Like that. [...]


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<p>I was thinking maybe this is true everywhere. But now I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Back east they have to predict snow, rain, hurricanes, thunderstorms, and big extremes in temperature.  That&#8217;s a lot to know. But we could read the weather, too..like if the leaves turned inside out, big rainstorm coming. The smell of snow. Like that. And if the weather forecast said snow, we usually got it. And if they said it was over a few inches, we did get snow days off from school! If they said rain, you better be prepared, or get a really big soaking.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have any of that, unfortunately. Same old, same old. From the weather maps, it looks like SoCal gets weather only from the North/ocean and East/desert. We ignore Mexico. Shouldn&#8217;t it be  easier to make predictions when the weather is always the same?? Apparently not.</p>
<p>And the errors usually all go in one direction: the weather people predict cool, and it stays hot. They all predicted a really nice cool week, and I was really looking forward to that. Instead, it&#8217;s a scorching depressing 98 degrees.</p>
<p>They now predict it will drop 25 degrees in the next 5 days. Get ready to crank up the air conditioning.</p>


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		<title>Jimmy Kimmel is un-American + Tripp Isenhour is a bird killer.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Barstow</dc:creator>
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Rob Lowe played for a charity golf tournament in Iowa, and hit and killed a goldfinch with a golf ball. This happened (Defamer) over a year ago, in June of 2007, even making the hit list on TMZ, but on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night, Rob isn&#8217;t much of a conversationalist, so this was &#8220;new&#8221; [...]


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<p>Rob Lowe played for a charity golf tournament in Iowa, and hit and <a href="http://agentbedhead.com/index.php/archive/rob-lowe-prince-of-darkness/">killed</a> a <a href="http://ww.tmz.com/2007/06/07/rob-lowe-dead-bird-is-the-word/">goldfinch</a> with a golf ball. This h<a href="http://defamer.com/hollywood/killings/rob-lowe-demonstrates-his-commitment-to-the-environment-by-murdering-bird-with-golf-ball-266583.php">appened</a> (Defamer) over a year ago, in June of 2007, even making the hit list on TMZ, but on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night, Rob isn&#8217;t much of a conversationalist, so this was &#8220;new&#8221; to us!</p>
<p class="caption" style="width: 385px; float: left"><img src="http://donnabarstow.com/park_blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/american-goldfinchwtmk.jpg" alt="American Goldfinch" /><br />
Photo from this <a href="http://www.naturesound.com/corepage/core.html">NatureSound</a> site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen a goldfinch out here, but I fed many of them back east. They are sweet, beautiful birds, and are kept as pets in Europe. <a href="http://kenarimania.multiply.com/video/item/28">Here&#8217;s</a> a vid of a canary-goldfinch (as they are close enough in genus to breed). So besides killing a protected state bird, and then making fun of it, Lowe may have killed someone&#8217;s pet, named Goldie.</p>
<p>According to some reports, Lowe was quite disturbed about it. Is that why the picture shows him holding the bird up like a trophy? Maybe that&#8217;s why on Kimmel he had all the stats, saying it was something like 7 trillion to one that his golf shot did that. (The <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=7&amp;entry_id=17447">comments</a> on various sites are, of course, totally predictable: birdies, birdies, and more birdies.)</p>
<p>In Iowa, the goldfinch is the state bird. Lowe said he had to sneak out the back way, so as not to get &#8220;arrested.&#8221; Stop, Rob, I&#8217;m getting too turned on.</p>
<p>Then Kimmel said, &#8220;What could have been better? Maybe something bigger, like a bald eagle.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, the federal bird of the USA. Perhaps his next comedy routine will be How to Kill California Condors.</p>
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<p>Accidents happen, but it&#8217;s too bad Lowe didn&#8217;t use this incident for good, instead of evil.  (Youtube of the Kimmel interview is <a href="http://seriouslyomg.com/?p=9264">here</a>.)</p>
<p>While looking up this news item, I came across another golf and bird incident that wasn&#8217;t an accident at all, and is really quite <a href="http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1720036,00.html">shocking</a>, from Golf.com. Pro golfer Tripp Isenhour became angry while filming &#8220;Shoot Like A Pro&#8221; on Dec. 12 at the Grand Cypress Golf Club when a squawking red-shouldered hawk roughly 300 yards away forced another take.</p>
<blockquote><p>He drove closer to the bird in his golf cart and starting hitting balls at it. The bird didn&#8217;t move and Isenhour gave up and drove away.</p>
<p>Isenhour started again when the hawk moved within about 75 yards, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officer Brian Baine indicated in a report.</p>
<p>Isenhour allegedly said, &#8220;I&#8217;ll get him now,&#8221; and aimed for the hawk.</p>
<p>&#8220;About the sixth ball came very near the bird&#8217;s head, and (Isenhour) was very excited that it was so close,&#8221; Baine wrote.</p>
<p>A few shots later, witnesses said he hit the hawk. The bird, protected as a migratory species, fell to the ground bleeding from both nostrils.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Jethro Senger, a sound engineer at the shoot, said hitting the bird was &#8220;basically like a joke to (Isenhour).&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He just kept saying how he didn&#8217;t think he could have hit it, which I think is a stupid thing for a PGA Tour golfer to say,&#8221; Senger said. &#8220;He can put a ball in a hole from hundreds of yards away, and here he is hitting line drives at something that&#8217;s, I don&#8217;t know, a couple hundred feet away?&#8221;</p>
<p>Senger said no one in the roughly 15-person crew intervened, and many later regretted it.</p></blockquote>
<p>In this case, the <a href="http://www.hsus.org/">Humane Society</a> stepped up:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Because of the high profile nature of this case, the PGA needs to take steps to address its interest and to make it clear that they don&#8217;t condone animal cruelty,&#8221; said Dale Bartlett, the deputy manager for animal cruelty issues for the Humane Society of the United States.</p></blockquote>
<p>From <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=35&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fnbcsports.msnbc.com%2Fid%2F23505953%2F&amp;ei=Y9_dSLfQH5mQsQOq8sjsAw&amp;usg=AFQjCNGo0gj5HBMeRZHOnVNHfOFIJB9jgA&amp;sig2=CtplK-TtbwFfjqtskg2BgA">NBCSports</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Pro golfer Tripp Isenhour said it was a “one-in-a-million” golf shot that killed a protected hawk and that he was only trying to scare the bird he now faces criminal charges for killing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Liar, liar, farking golf ball on fire.</p>
<p>He was <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orl-golfer3008aug30,0,4377041.story">sentenced</a> last month:</p>
<blockquote><p>The 40-year-old pro golfer, accused of killing a protected hawk with a golf shot in December, was ordered Friday to work 100 hours of community service, spend one year on probation, pay $500 in court costs and complete four hours of anger-management classes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Iowa, you might want to take a look at Florida and show some honor next time.</p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;m no longer going to look for Jimmy Kimmel in Costco anymore.</p>


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